Friday, 13 March 2015

Goldmine record grading system

I use the Goldmine record grading system, but use some leniency on promo records. Some collectors consider an otherwise pristine album with a jacket that has been punch-holed or stamped "Not For Sale" to be a worthless discard, but other buyers value these records for any number of reasons. I always leave a detailed notation about condition and weigh the album alterations into my overall grade.

GOLDMINE GRADING GUIDE

MINT (M)
These are absolutely perfect in every way. Often rumored but rarely seen, Mint should never be used as a grade unless more than one person agrees that the record or sleeve truly is in this condition. There is no set percentage of the Near Mint value these can bring; it is best negotiated between buyer and seller.

NEAR MINT (NM)
A good description of a NM record is “it looks like it just came from a retail store and it was opened for the first time.” In other words, it’s nearly perfect. Many dealers won’t use a grade higher than this, implying (perhaps correctly) that no record or sleeve is ever truly perfect.

NM records are shiny, with no visible defects. Writing, stickers or other markings cannot appear on the label, nor can any “spindle marks” from someone trying to blindly put the record on the turntable. Major factory defects also must be absent; a record and label obviously pressed off center is not Near Mint. If played, it will do so with no surface noise. (NM records don’t have to be “never played”; a record used on an excellent turntable can remain NM after many plays if the disc is properly cared for.)

NM covers are free of creases, ring wear and seam splits of any kind.

NOTE: These are high standards, and they are not on a sliding scale. A record or sleeve from the 1950s must meet the same standards as one from the 1990s or 2000s to be Near Mint! It’s estimated that no more than 2 to 4 percent of all records remaining from the 1950s and 1960s are truly Near Mint. This is why they fetch such high prices, even for more common items.

Don’t assume your records are Near Mint. They must meet these standards to qualify!

VERY GOOD PLUS (VG+)
A good description of a VG+ record is “except for a couple minor things, this would be Near Mint.” Most collectors, especially those who want to play their records, will be happy with a VG+ record, especially if it toward the high end of the grade (sometimes called VG++).

VG+ records may show some slight signs of wear, including light scuffs or very light scratches that do not affect the listening experience. Slight warps that do not affect the sound are OK. Minor signs of handling are OK, too, such as telltale marks around the center hole, but repeated playing has not misshapen the hole. There may be some very light ring wear or discoloration, but it should be barely noticeable.

VG+ covers should have only minor wear. A VG+ cover might have some very minor seam wear or a split (less than one inch long) at the bottom, the most vulnerable location. Also, a VG+ cover may have some defacing, such as a cut-out marking. Covers with cut-out markings can never be considered Near Mint.

Very Good (VG)
Many of the imperfections found on a VG+ record are more obvious on a VG record. That said, VG records — which usually sell for no more than 25 percent of a NM record — are among the biggest bargains in record collecting, because most of the “big money” goes for more perfect copies. For many listeners, a VG record or sleeve will be worth the money.

VG records have more obvious flaws than their counterparts in better shape. They lack most of the original gloss found on factory-fresh records. Groove wear is evident on sight, as are light scratches deep enough to feel with a fingernail. When played, a VG record has surface noise, and some scratches may be audible, especially in soft passages and during a song’s intro and ending. But the noise will not overpower the music otherwise.

Minor writing, tape or a sticker can detract from the label. Many collectors who have jukeboxes will use VG records in them and not think twice. They remain a fine listening experience, just not the same as if it were in better shape.

VG covers will have many signs of human handling. Ring wear in the middle or along the edges of the cover where the edge of a record would reside, is obvious, though not overwhelming. Some more creases might be visible. Seam splitting will be more obvious; it may appear on all three sides, though it won’t be obvious upon looking. Someone might have written or it or stamped a price tag on it, too.

Good (G),
Good Plus (G+)
or Very Good Minus (VG–)
These records go for 10 to 15 percent of the Near Mint value, if you are lucky.

Good does not mean bad! The record still plays through without skipping, so it can serve as filler until something better comes along. But it has significant surface noise and groove wear, and the label is worn, with significant ring wear, heavy writing, or obvious damage caused by someone trying to remove tape or stickers and failing miserably. A Good to VG– cover has ring wear to the point of distraction, has seam splits obvious on sight and may have even heavier writing, such as, for example, huge radio station letters written across the front to deter theft.

If the item is common, it’s probably better to pass it up. But if you’ve been seeking it for a long time, get it cheap and look to upgrade.

POOR (P)
and Fair (F)
Poor (P) and Fair (F) records go for 0 to 5 percent of the Near Mint value, if they go at all. More likely, they end up going in the trash. Records are cracked, impossibly warped, or skip and/or repeat when an attempt is made to play them. Covers are so heavily damaged that you almost want to cry.

Only the most outrageously rare items ever sell for more than a few cents in this condition — again, if they sell at all.

Sealed Albums
Still-sealed albums can — and do — bring even higher prices than listed.

However, one must be careful when paying a premium for sealed LPs of any kind for several reasons:

1. They may have been re-sealed;
2. The records might not be in Near Mint condition;
3. The record inside might not be the original pressing or the most desirable pressing;
4. Most bizarre of all, the wrong record might be inside. I’ve had this happen to me; I opened a sealed album by one MCA artist only to find a record by a different MCA artist inside! Fortunately, I didn’t pay a lot for that sealed LP. I would have been quite upset if I had!

Imports
The Goldmine® Record Album Price Guide lists only those vinyl LPs manufactured in the United States or, in a few instances, manufactured in other countries, but specifically for release in the United States. Any record that fits the following criteria is an import, and you won’t find it in the price guide:

• LPs on the Parlophone label by any artist, at least before 2000. Parlophone, best known as the Beatles’ British label, was not used as a label in the United States until very recently.
• LPs that have the letters “BIEM,” “GEMA” or “MAPL” on them.
• LPs that say anywhere on the label or cover, “Made in Canada,” “Made in the UK,” “Made in Germany,” etc.

We have chosen not to list records from Great Britain, Canada, Japan or any other nation for logistical reasons. Where do you start, and where do you stop?

Unfortunately, we realize that there is a lack of reliable information on the value of non-U.S. records, especially published in the United States. Please don’t contact us seeking information on non-U.S. records; we cannot help.

Also unfortunately, there are few general rules about the value of an import as compared to an American edition.

Some import albums, especially well-made Japanese imports that still have their “obi strip,” can go for more than the U.S. counterpart. Others seem to attract little interest in the States.

One rule is just as true of imports as it is with U.S. records: Those discs that are originals in the best condition will sell for more than reissues and those in less than top-notch shape.

Promotional Copies
Basically, a promotional record is any copy of a record not meant for retail sale. Different labels identify these in different ways: The most common method on LPs is to use a white label instead of the regular-color label and/or to add words such as the following:

“Demonstration — Not for Sale”

“Audition Record”

“For Radio-TV Use Only”

“Promotional Copy”

Some labels, of course, used colors other than white; still others used the same labels as their stock copies, but added a promotional disclaimer to the label.

Most promotional albums have the same catalog number as the regular release, except for those differences.

Sometimes, regular stock copies have a “Demonstration — Not for Sale” or “Promo” rubber stamped on the cover; these are known as “designate promos” and are not of the same cachet as true promotional records. Treat these as stock copies that have been defaced. Exceptions are noted in the listings.

All of this is mentioned as a means of identification. As a rule, we do not list promotional records separately, nor are we interested in doing so. There are exceptions, which we will list below. But we feel that the precious space in our guides is better used for unique commercially available records rather than for thousands upon thousands of promotional copies.

Most promotional LPs sell for approximately the same as a stock copy of the same catalog number. That has been our experience.

However, there are certain exceptions. Those are the kinds of promos that you’ll find documented in our price guide, and which we plan to continue to document. These include:

Colored vinyl promos.
Promos in special numbering series, such as Columbia albums with an “AS” or “CAS” prefix; Warner Bros, albums with a “PRO” or “PRO-A-” prefix; Capitol albums with a “PRO” or “SPRO” prefix; Mercury albums with an “MK” prefix; and other similar series on other labels.

Promos that are somehow different than the released versions, either because of changes in the cover or changes in the music between the promo LP and the regular-stock LP.


Promos pressed on special high-quality vinyl; these were popular in the 1980s and can bring a premium above stock copies of the same titles.


Sunday, 8 March 2015

Neil (young)

Neil Peart (drummer, Rush) investigative research, continuing...



Folder of promotional photos from the IMAGE agency in St. Catherines circa late-1960s/early 1970s.


The Majority







JR Flood



 Any chance in hell this is The Eternal Triangle...?



Friday, 6 March 2015

Promo records or discard bin?




A large quantity of Joe's record collection is comprised of vintage promotional (or "promo") records. These are records that were never intended for public sale or re-sale. 

Joe was comped many promo records, mostly from record companies, agencies and band managers trying to get their clients work. Joe would sometimes return from New York City with suitcases full of promo records. Many of these records have never been played.




So - do they have value, and how does one grade?

Promotional records are tricky to grade. For one, they are not all equal. 



They often come in different varieties...In the case of Joe's PROMO records, some promotional records come:

  • packaged in a customized folder with photos, yet the record jackets are untouched by punch-holes or stamps; 
  • other promo releases are stock releases with stock labels and are only designated by a corner punch-hole; 
  • several promo releases are white label "promotion only" "not for sale" records that may-or-may-not have any punch-holes and/or promotional materials packaged with them.



Some of these versions could be highly valuable and others could be worthless.

It is my objective to spotlight all pertinent details with straightforward descriptions and multiple photos. Read carefully & inspect the images closely. 

The market and YOUR bids will determine whether these records have any value or not.



Tuesday, 3 March 2015

Bonecrusher86

Bonecrusher86 is the eBay user-name. When in doubt, use that for a search - or better yet, bookmark!

The "New Wave" of records being listed will commence shortly. But first, a post-mortem of what went right-and-wrong. The initial wave of records auctioned on eBay from Joe's collection was very much a trial.

The Good:

Several of the records sold for good values.


A pristine promo (punch-holed) copy of Rush st/ Rush debut (Moon Records MN100) sold for USD$460...



...and a gorgeous NM copy of psych Japanese acid-rock outfit Flower Travelling Band's Satori LP (GRT Records of Canada) went for an impressive USD$150.

Other records that exceeded $100 included Alice Cooper, Kiss, Queen, Rush, Stooges. And while I was chuffed about that, I was relieved that buyers received their LPs in the same condition they were shipped and were graded accurately and/or conservatively.

Representative testimonial feedback:


"A++++ ebay vendor. BId with the UTMOST of confidence!! Highly recommended!"

"Much better then expected & TX for very carefully packaged records"

"Absolutely pristine copy - packed to survive a bomb blast ... Love it!"


The Bad:

I originally listed 110 records that ended the same night. My thinking was along the lines of saving buyers on shipping & handling and enticing buyers to bid on the first record knowing they could get another one-or-two without adding to the shipping surcharge. That's was excellent as far as that goes -- but it also meant I was bombarded with packaging and shipping a LOT of records and dealing with a LOT of communication, correspondence, sorting out shipping rates etc., that made life difficult. (I have two jobs, and this wasn't one of them.) So until I get more time, records will be listed regularly but in smaller batches, possibly a couple per day until a balance can be perfected.

The Ugly:

Shipping was a nightmare. I'd sold for over 15 years at eBay.com (the original American site), but they have since changed their shipping policy on specific items (including LP records) and wouldn't permit me to ship records for anything more than a maximum $4 handling charge. The only way around this was to pull everything off the U.S. site and re-list it at eBay-ca (the Canadian site). It was a huge pain-in-the-ass. It wasn't a simple process of checking boxes on all the listings and transferring them to the Canadian site. Instead, it was a matter of cutting & pasting EVERY listing manually and re-uploading ALL the images (usually 8-12 per listing), and as I say, it was a time-consuming NIGHTMARE.

But that's all been sorted out.

The silver-lining . . . I'm now shipping directly through eBay.ca/Canada Post and there is a 25% discount automatically applied.

Check back soon for the next wave...

Monday, 2 March 2015

John Peel

Small excerpt from my phoner about the fateful day young Mr. Ravenscroft bumped into Oswald and Ruby:




How'd I get 'em...?

So, how did I get my hands on Joe's collection....? I've been asked that question more than a few times.

First off, I used to publish a music alt-rock fanzine Filler (fillerzine) in the 1990s where me 'n my volunteer staff conducted feature profile interviews with musicians Killing Joke, Yo La Tengo, Fugazi, Mercury Rev, Sonic Youth and many more. (Also...dignitaries such as rock radio legend John Peel, authors Russell Banks, Colin Escott and Michael Chabon, comics legend Dave Sim, and more.)

For many years I was a music photographer, published in newspapers & magazines, and I've had several solo exhibits pertaining directly to rock music.



Joe was a friend of my parents, and he was looking to relocate homes. I was recommended to him as somebody with a tremendous interest in music, as well as somebody with experience buying & selling vinyl & rock artefacts.

Joe's basement was filled with boxes of rock material he hoarded from decades past and it had become an anchor and encumbrance. He told me he couldn't listen to all the records even if he'd attempted spending every remaining minute of his life making the attempt. So, Joe is liberating himself . . . and asking me to "have fun" disposing of it.

Now, it should be underlined I am selling these for a minority commission fee. The property does not belong to me, I am only entrusted with holding, promoting and moving it. Joe isn't stingy and he certainly isn't "liquidating" them for cash. These records and collectibles have been in his possession a very long time, they are personal to him, yet he knows they have to go, no room for them in his lovely new open-concept house, so he wants them in the hands of music lovers who can respect & appreciate them.

More to come...




Joe

Short version: Joe Recchia was a talent agent & concert promoter from the mid-1960s to the early 1980s in southern Ontario, Canada. Joe started small -- local dances and providing entertainment for university students in Kitchener-Waterloo . . . and then began bringing up-and-comers into the territory who would later become global superstars.

The talent that Joe booked is eye-popping: Alice Cooper, Kiss, MC5, Iggy & the Stooges, Elton John, Supremes, Roxy Music, Yes, Genesis, Frank Zappa, Leonard Cohen, Neil Young, Queen, Rush and many, many more.



The legend about The Guess Who writing & performing "American Woman" for the first time -- that was one of Joe's shows.



And then there's the infamous Led Zeppelin concert that Joe booked. The local daily newspaper wrote up an article the past few months ("The Day Led Zeppelin Came to Kitchener") that claims 3/4 of the house tickets went unsold. (Joe disputes this. He says many tickets went unsold, but nowhere near the exaggeration the Record remembers.)



So... in his capacity as a booking agent of top talent, Recchia acquired a LOT of stuff that he's hoarded in his basement for half-a-century, including a couple tons of LP records, many of them vintage promotional releases, and a substantial number that have never been played.

Stay tuned....





Intro

Hi, my name is Dave Fisher. Welcome to Joe's Rock Pile!

I'm in the process of cataloging for sale LP records and authentic vintage rock & roll memorabilia (posters, t-shirts, signed contracts, tickets, etc.) from the collection of Joe Recchia. Most of the sales have been limited to eBay auction listings and I'm currently percolating other ideas.



There's a very big collection of material here, and it has been suggested to me that perhaps I start a blog to announce future listings and write about some of the "really good stuff" in advance. It's a suggestion I've taken and will try to maintain. Keep your eyes & ears open...